807se » 15 Jan 2011, 10:22 a écrit:Les infos qu'il me faut en premier :
la résistance interne du transfo, comment on la calcule ?
Hammond 372DX : Power: 127 W
Sec. 1: 300-0-300 V @ 125 mA DC
Sec. 2: 5 V CT @ 3 A
Sec. 3: 6,3 V CT @ 4 A
Si j'ai bien décodé les datas de la diode 80, 50 ohm par plaque sou 350v, pour 300v par plaque, va t-elle changer, comment on la calcule ?
http://www.r-type.org/pdfs/80.pdfFranz.
Salut Franz,
c´est la résistance interne ou la résistance équivalente du montage que tu veux?
La résistance du transfo pour l´association avec ton ta valve redresseuse:
Minimum Limiting Resistance: A valve rectifiers must have a resistance in series with each anode. Many 'classic' amps do not include these when they ought to, and rectifier failure is common in these amps. The data sheet will provide a Minimum Limiting Resistance (Rlim(min)) for different supply voltages, although the limiting resistance can be decreased if the reservoir capacitor is also decreased proportionately. Part of the limitng resistance will be made up of unavoidable transformer resistance and reflected impedance, and this should be calculated first in order to find out whether any additonal resistance must be added.
For example, when supplied by a transformer rated at 300-0-300Vrms, the EZ80 specifies Rlim(min) = 215 ohms per anode. The total impedance presented to the rectifier by the transformer is given by:
Rt= Rs + (n^2)* Rp
Where:
Rs = DC resistance of one half of the transformer secondary winding.)
Rp = DC resistance of the transformer primary winding.
n = Secondary to primary turns ratio (equal to the secondary voltage divided by the primary supply voltage).
If we were using a mains transformer with a 240V; 80R primary and a 310-0-310V; 50R per half secondary:
Rt= 50 + (1.29^2)* 80 = 183R
The EZ80 requires at least 215 ohms, so an additonal 215 - 183 = 32 ohm resistor must be placed in series with each anode (so we would probably use 33 or 47 ohms).
Because the limiting resistors will have to carry the ripple current of the reservoir capacitor it is best to use high wattage resistors. Even 7W resistors will usually get quite warm. Remember that the voltage drop across the limiting resistors will cause the HT fall proportionately.
Alternatively, a single limiting resistor could be placed between the transformer centre tap and ground, although its power dissipation will be doubled.
Clearly your choice of rectifier has a huge effect on the HT you ultimately achieve. It is the voltage drop across the rectifier and series limiting resistance that causes 'sag' in Class-AB amps. When a loud sound is played and the amp suddenly draws more current the voltage dropped across the rectifier increases, lowering the HT and creating a compressing effect known as 'sag'. Class-A amps do not exhibit this effect since their current draw remains constant on average. Silicon diodes have a voltage drop (about 0.7V) that is constant with current so they do not produce sag, but it can be simulated simply be placing a resistor (roughly 100R to 330R) in series with the rectifier. But be sure to calculate the necessary power rating! A resistor in this position will usually need to be the biggest one in the amplifier, and may need to be rated at 10W or more.
Trouvé ici:
http://www.freewebs.com/valvewizard/fullwave.htmlPour calculer la résistance équivalente de ton ampli, c´est le rapport entre la tension d´alim en V et le courant au repos en mA.
Vincent