Au fil de l'eau
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2561 par mkl » 07 Jan 2014 à 23:04
Grosses triodes toujours chez Thomas Mayer, avec un projet qui promet d'être, encore une fois, encombrant:
http://vinylsavor.blogspot.fr/2014/01/211-drives-211-part-1.html
http://vinylsavor.blogspot.fr/2014/01/211-drives-211-part-1.html
J'aime les gens qui doutent.
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2562 par AJMARS » 07 Jan 2014 à 23:25
Thomas Sakumayer.....
A plus
André


A plus
André
Un empilement d'éléments aussi chers soient ils, n'a jamais fait un système
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2565 par saussines » 10 Jan 2014 à 13:22
bonjour à tous,
rien à voir avec la hifi, mais de la "littérature";
connaissez-vous Clayton Cubitt?
tout à fait délicieux, quand elle est lue par une voie féminine...
peu importe si vous ne comprenez pas l'anglais.
bonne année à tous et toutes...
http://claytoncubitt.com/hysterical-literature/
did
N.B. désolé pour le HS
rien à voir avec la hifi, mais de la "littérature";
connaissez-vous Clayton Cubitt?
tout à fait délicieux, quand elle est lue par une voie féminine...
peu importe si vous ne comprenez pas l'anglais.
bonne année à tous et toutes...
http://claytoncubitt.com/hysterical-literature/
did
N.B. désolé pour le HS
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2566 par calamean » 10 Jan 2014 à 17:55
François
Comme disent nos confrères allemands : "Reinigen Sie die Nadel immer mit einer Bewegung von HINTEN nach VORNE, andernfalls könnte ihr System beschädigt werden."
Ana Mighty Sound
Comme disent nos confrères allemands : "Reinigen Sie die Nadel immer mit einer Bewegung von HINTEN nach VORNE, andernfalls könnte ihr System beschädigt werden."
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2567 par claude_m4 » 10 Jan 2014 à 20:22
bonsoir coles
ils sont en train de hiérogamer ou de faire schlika schlika comme des bêtes sur la platoche?
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2568 par Coles » 10 Jan 2014 à 20:35

Non c'est que le début de la party.

Calamerci et saussinaussi.

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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2569 par claude_m4 » 10 Jan 2014 à 20:37
ah ...tu rassure...
ça se serait fini trop tôt ...
claude


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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2572 par buzato » 10 Jan 2014 à 21:41
j'adore! quel passage musicale a bien pu créer cet état????
bonne année
un peu de tolérance, juste un peu
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2574 par claude_m4 » 10 Jan 2014 à 22:52
Coles » 10 Jan 2014, 19:39 a écrit:Ben à 50000, j'ai dit... :mrgreen:
En attendant je poireaute en vert tilleul... :mrgreen:
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Qu'est ce qu'il passe à la sono déjà ?????
très joli ensemble ...du genre british ,ta ? cavalière ? a l'air de s'emm... a 100 sous de l'heure
p.s si je puis me permettre un jugement ,vous êtes bien assortis
j'avais oublié la voix de cette nénette

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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2575 par Coles » 12 Jan 2014 à 11:52
"Well the only words I said today are "beer" and "thank you"
Beer, thank you
Beer, thank you
Beer"
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2576 par Coles » 13 Jan 2014 à 12:02
130................. à 50000 je file.........................de l'eau..................tisserand d'eau..........no no no.....

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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2577 par castellu » 14 Jan 2014 à 11:58
Tenté par un 211 TM ?
Dépêchez-vous, TM a encore quelques TS Tango X-10S (plus fabriqués) en stock...
Description d'un client :
As the new owner of the Thomas Mayer Elrog 211 SE amplifiers I have some good and some bad news to share: First the good news: This amp is a hit! And now the bad news: The Hirata-Tango transformers used in these amplifiers are not made any more since a long time also the production of the ISO-Tango transformers has ended in the mean time. But there are still some few pairs of them in Thomas' stock in Lindau.
What has changed in my system after adding these amplifiers? The 25W per channel (up to 20W in Class A1 and 5W 'reserve' going to Class A2) is in a totally different league than the 1.5W of the SE 45 I used before. You might think now : Ah yes, those amps have so much power they are not really able to walk any more. Not true! The 211 SE amps with the tubes from Lübtheen (Elrog) can reproduce very subtle nuances, if the music material demands that. This was the biggest surprise for me. I could now use the whole array of silly audiophile adjectives about the sound but would still not be able to describe the core of the performance. Of course they have an extremely controlled and black bass, silky mids and a clear and extended treble range. Focussing is precise as never before in my system. The layering of the instruments in width and depth is extraordinary. The dynamics are monster! Did I forget something?
Such descriptions fit a number of amplifiers, but the 211 SE can do more and you don't have to worry about all those points above. Everything is just there. I don't know if a 45 SE is able to provide a tad more resolution. I don't care with all I got now. The 211 plays along with the same charm as my previous 45 had. And I didn't expect that to be possible.
If the rest of the system is up to the task the result has less to do with HiFi but rather with realistic music reproduction. I never heard all the power and tone colours of a concert piano so convincing before. Tonal nuances between a Bechstein, Brodmann or Steinway are very easy to hear. Often these instruments sound like toys when played through a HiFi system.
The naturalness of the reproduction is very apparent with live recordings. Is the applause realistic or does it sound as if the audience is clapping with logs of wood? The 211 SE shows how it is supposed to sound. Here the resolution capability plays an important role. Another aspect which I only realised after a while: Mediocre recordings get new live with the 211 SE amps. What sounded flat and featureless before now gets some fresh excitement. Of course the 211 SE cannot make a silk purse from a pig skin. But it is surprising what it can pull out of such recordings.
A solo violin is always very difficult. This instrument has an extended harmonic spectrum. Rarely can it be realistically reproduced. Again the 211 SE shows how it's done. The amps keep everything in order during complex music parts like orchestral tutti. It doesn't run out of steam like flea power triodes do. These amplifiers might open new doors for Wagner fans. I could go on with this list. I have not found any weakness.
I can't say if it's the Hirata Tango transformers, the extraordinary Elrog 211 or the circuit. For sure it is the overall concept which is responsible for the performance.
Too much praise? I don't think so. I have never heard any amplifier before which is more convincing.
B r u n o


Dépêchez-vous, TM a encore quelques TS Tango X-10S (plus fabriqués) en stock...


Description d'un client :
As the new owner of the Thomas Mayer Elrog 211 SE amplifiers I have some good and some bad news to share: First the good news: This amp is a hit! And now the bad news: The Hirata-Tango transformers used in these amplifiers are not made any more since a long time also the production of the ISO-Tango transformers has ended in the mean time. But there are still some few pairs of them in Thomas' stock in Lindau.
What has changed in my system after adding these amplifiers? The 25W per channel (up to 20W in Class A1 and 5W 'reserve' going to Class A2) is in a totally different league than the 1.5W of the SE 45 I used before. You might think now : Ah yes, those amps have so much power they are not really able to walk any more. Not true! The 211 SE amps with the tubes from Lübtheen (Elrog) can reproduce very subtle nuances, if the music material demands that. This was the biggest surprise for me. I could now use the whole array of silly audiophile adjectives about the sound but would still not be able to describe the core of the performance. Of course they have an extremely controlled and black bass, silky mids and a clear and extended treble range. Focussing is precise as never before in my system. The layering of the instruments in width and depth is extraordinary. The dynamics are monster! Did I forget something?
Such descriptions fit a number of amplifiers, but the 211 SE can do more and you don't have to worry about all those points above. Everything is just there. I don't know if a 45 SE is able to provide a tad more resolution. I don't care with all I got now. The 211 plays along with the same charm as my previous 45 had. And I didn't expect that to be possible.
If the rest of the system is up to the task the result has less to do with HiFi but rather with realistic music reproduction. I never heard all the power and tone colours of a concert piano so convincing before. Tonal nuances between a Bechstein, Brodmann or Steinway are very easy to hear. Often these instruments sound like toys when played through a HiFi system.
The naturalness of the reproduction is very apparent with live recordings. Is the applause realistic or does it sound as if the audience is clapping with logs of wood? The 211 SE shows how it is supposed to sound. Here the resolution capability plays an important role. Another aspect which I only realised after a while: Mediocre recordings get new live with the 211 SE amps. What sounded flat and featureless before now gets some fresh excitement. Of course the 211 SE cannot make a silk purse from a pig skin. But it is surprising what it can pull out of such recordings.
A solo violin is always very difficult. This instrument has an extended harmonic spectrum. Rarely can it be realistically reproduced. Again the 211 SE shows how it's done. The amps keep everything in order during complex music parts like orchestral tutti. It doesn't run out of steam like flea power triodes do. These amplifiers might open new doors for Wagner fans. I could go on with this list. I have not found any weakness.
I can't say if it's the Hirata Tango transformers, the extraordinary Elrog 211 or the circuit. For sure it is the overall concept which is responsible for the performance.
Too much praise? I don't think so. I have never heard any amplifier before which is more convincing.
B r u n o
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2578 par gillougillou » 14 Jan 2014 à 12:17
Bon, on a envie d'écouter la chose maintenant..... mais où ?
Si j'ai bien lu sur le site de Thomas, il est question d'une 300B teutonne ?
Gillou 
Si j'ai bien lu sur le site de Thomas, il est question d'une 300B teutonne ?


Avoir des enceintes au rendement élevé avant d’adopter un ampli triode c’est bien.
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2579 par PS4 » 14 Jan 2014 à 12:50
gillougillou a écrit:Bon, on a envie d'écouter la chose maintenant..... mais où ?
Et sur quoi surtout... Le nombre d'électroniques superlatives ruinées par des démos sur des enceintes pas adaptées...
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Re: Au fil de l'eau
#2580 par castellu » 14 Jan 2014 à 13:31
Visiblement sur les photos on peut voir des Wolf von Langa B&W :
http://wolfvonlanga.com/speaker-systems ... llery.html
B r u n o
http://wolfvonlanga.com/speaker-systems ... llery.html
B r u n o
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